Beethoven, publishers and opus numbers.

[Roehre]

I made a mistake. It is not the thirty-years' war that Barry Lyndon goes to, but the Seven-year's war. One of the characters mentioned is Frederick II.

It's only just over a century later

[Enrique]

I made a mistake. It is not the thirty-years' war that Barry Lyndon goes to, but the Seven-year's war. One of the characters mentioned is Frederick II.

[Roehre]

In Tackery's novel, Barry Lyndon as so many romantic heroes goes to the therty years war. I saw the movie, and enjoyed like so many people the magnificent musical taste of Stanley Kubric. There were people who even buoght the sound track record.

It's part of my collection too.
One of my favourite Kubrick films, I must confess

[Enrique]

In Tackery's novel, Barry Lyndon as so many romantic heroes goes to the therty years war. I saw the movie, and enjoyed like so many people the magnificent musical taste of Stanley Kubric. There were people who even buoght the sound track record.

[Roehre]

1648 is the beggining of the thirty years war of the date of the peace treaty, Roehre?

EDIT: it has to be the treaty.

The Osnabrück/Münster Treaty, ending the 30 years war (1618-1648) in the Holy Roman Empire and the Eighty Years War (1568-1648) between the Republic of the United Netherlands and Habsburg Spain.

[Enrique]

1648 is the beggining of the thirty years war of the date of the peace treaty, Roehre?

EDIT: it has to be the treaty.

[Roehre]

Well, Roehre, Venice was part of the Holy Roman Empire by those days. ....

The Venetian Republic was not a part of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation (the First Reich) from approximately the beginning of the 13th Century I'm afraid. The Netherlands ceased to be a part of it in 1648 (toghether with the Swiss).

[Sorrano]

Yes, I did not quite understood, But perhaps Roehre says it was Vivaldi who, with his publications in Amsterdam, initiated an asidous practice.

Sorry, my mistake; I did not catch the last part of the post and missed the reference to Vivaldi.

[Enrique]

Yes, I did not quite understood, But perhaps Roehre says it was Vivaldi who, with his publications in Amsterdam, initiated an asidous practice.

[Sorrano]

Well, Roehre, Venice was part of the Holy Roman Empire by those days. And if not, it was very close to it. Amsterdam and Holland in general was plagued by prints!

EDIT: So Vivaldi is the precursor of the numbering system! I'd have never suspect it.

I believe that was Viadana, not Vivaldi. He predates Vivaldi.

[Enrique]

I have to disappoint you, I'm afraid Enrique. Viadana's Motecta festorum has got an opus number (10), published in Venice 1597. A composer with the name Marini published 22 opus numbers in Venice between 1617 and 1655.

It was done by Vivaldi and other Italian masters, publishing in diverse places like Amsterdam and Venice, but Schütz used them too (though the latter's numbering is partly a posthumous one).

Well, Roehre, Venice was part of the Holy Roman Empire by those days. And if not, it was very close to it. Amsterdam and Holland in general was plagued by prints!

EDIT: So Vivaldi is the precursor of the numbering system! I'd have never suspected it.

[Enrique]

A 1945 published biography, originally in German, not based on own research but completely on secondary literature.

Yes, I remember it was more like a novel than a true biography. Unfortunately, it's difficult nowadays to get biographies that do not look like novels.

[Roehre]

Do you know a biographer (biography writer) called Emil Ludwig? I've just found, at home, a book of his, by name Beethoven.

A 1945 published biography, originally in German, not based on own research but completely on secondary literature.

[Roehre]

I'm sure it must have risen in Germany. Well, thank you for your nice posts.

I have to disappoint you, I'm afraid Enrique. Viadana's Motecta festorum has got an opus number (10), published in Venice 1597. A composer with the name Marini published 22 opus numbers in Venice between 1617 and 1655.

It was done by Vivaldi and other Italian masters, publishing in diverse places like Amsterdam and Venice, but Schütz used them too (though the latter's numbering is partly a posthumous one).

[Enrique]

Do you know a biographer (biography writer) called Emil Ludwig? I've just found, at home, a book of his, by name Beethoven.