Beethoven on Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure!

[Chris]

I've done a few things by Liszt, but it seems to me that the time and effort required to learn the symphony transcriptions is too much vs. what you get for it (and the fact that I still have many Beethoven piano works to learn ).

[Peter]

Originally posted by Chris:
I've done a few things by Liszt, but it seems to me that the time and effort required to learn the symphony transcriptions is too much vs. what you get for it (and the fact that I still have many Beethoven piano works to learn ).

I haven't had the time to learn these either - they are very difficult, but I should imagine you get an awful lot - a deeper insight into the music if you are actually studying it this way. People who heard Liszt play his transcription of Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique said that he excelled the effects created by the Orchestra (and don't forget Berlioz was a superb orchestrator). I would love to have heard him play the Beethoven Symphony transcriptions!


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'Man know thyself'

[Chris]

I am sure that is so, but what I meant was how valuable an edition to your repertoire they would be. Not so valuable compared to how difficult they would be to learn, in my opinion. But perhaps I will tackle them some years down the road, after I have fleshed out my Beethoven, Mozart, and Chopin.

[This message has been edited by Chris (edited 09-13-2001).]

[Peter]

Originally posted by Chris:
I am sure that is so, but what I meant was how valuable an edition to your repertoire they would be. Not so valuable compared to how difficult they would be to learn, in my opinion. But perhaps I will tackle them some years down the road, after I have fleshed out my Beethoven, Mozart, and Chopin.

Well I agree with that - there is enough in the piano repertoire to be getting on with!

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'Man know thyself'

[Chris]

It boggles the mind how much piano music there is that is standard. The violin (which I also play) is in the same situation. I always feel like I will never be able to learn all the pieces I want to learn in the span of my life. I should have taken up a less popular instrument

[Peter]

Originally posted by Chris:
It boggles the mind how much piano music there is that is standard. The violin (which I also play) is in the same situation. I always feel like I will never be able to learn all the pieces I want to learn in the span of my life. I should have taken up a less popular instrument

There aren't many solo pieces for the triangle!

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'Man know thyself'

[Franz_Liszt]

Liszt was a wonderful composer and pianist. I would have loved to see him perform his transcriptions of the Beethoven Symphonies. I can just imagine. Liszt would be well worth the time and effort. His pieces are very difficult, but benificial to the pianist. Not only helps your technique in various ways, but lets face it, Liszt's music would get anyone to come by and listen. No matter what kind of the music that person does like. I would recommend you to add at least one Liszt piece to your repertoire, along with your Beethoven/Mozart/Chopin pieces. Not saying you should take on his Transcendental Etudes or Mephisto Waltz at first, but maybe a more lyrical work by Liszt. These are merely my comments, and shouldn't be taken seriously by any means. You do what you feel you are ready for.

Triangle Sonata in D Minor, Op. 35. Hehehe!

[Rod]

Originally posted by Chris:
... I always feel like I will never be able to learn all the pieces I want to learn in the span of my life.

...specialise, my boy.......specialise......

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"If I were but of noble birth..." - Rod Corkin

[Chris]

If I were a pro, that would be something to think about, but since I play only for fun, I'm going to get as much in as I can!

[Peter]

Originally posted by Chris:
If I were a pro, that would be something to think about, but since I play only for fun, I'm going to get as much in as I can!

Good for you Chris - you should play what you enjoy.

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'Man know thyself'

[Rei]

Originally posted by Peter:
Good for you Chris - you should play what you enjoy.

I wish my music teacher could say that...

[~Immortal Beloved~]

Originally posted by Franz_Liszt:
I recently watched Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. It has been a long time, and I forgot Beethoven was in the movie. I just was curious of what people thought of how he was portrayed in the movie? And of course, of all Beethoven's magnificent works, they chose Fur Elise!

I've seen that movie last month! I was so happy to see him on the movie!

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freedom for all- Ludwig Van Beethoven

[Peter]

Originally posted by Rei:
I wish my music teacher could say that...

Ah, but you are a student Rei and must be guided by your teacher! As a teacher myself, you have to give students music that is appropiate for their musical and technical development which may not always be to their taste. However I don't think students should be forced to learn pieces they utterly detest as this is counter-productive!

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'Man know thyself'

[Rei]

Originally posted by Peter:
Ah, but you are a student Rei and must be guided by your teacher! As a teacher myself, you have to give students music that is appropiate for their musical and technical development which may not always be to their taste. However I don't think students should be forced to learn pieces they utterly detest as this is counter-productive!

He he, okay.

[Claudie MICAULT]

Perfectly said Peter !!!
Before to be ourselves teachers we have been also students and we must not forget how one feel beeing obliged to study a piece of Olivier Messiaen or another fellow like that ( sorry, I do not appreciate his music at all...and I have bad memories about playing that !!!) It is a lot of time lost which could have been used to study music from Beethoven, Liszt, Schubert, Mozart, Chopin, Bach... and Haendel (who have written fantastic "suites" one can play at the piano !)

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Claudie