beethoven
i am looking for a piece of beethovens work, it is a piece on the immortal beloved cd, it starts off with a long horn sound, and its like a soft beat then it picks up a bit well if ne one has the cd please email me at slapmaxwell1@home.com thanks
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I don't have an answer for you, but I just wanted to say:
VAGUEST TOPIC EVER.
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Why don't you look up the discography online (Amazon or some such) and download each piece from Gnutella or Napster? As far as I know, classical pieces are still available and considering the renown-level of the works on that CD, you should have no trouble find them.Comment
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The second movement of the Seventh Symphony is featured a lot in the movie. It starts off with woodwinds, however, but it continues as you describe.Originally posted by slapmaxwell1:
i am looking for a piece of beethovens work, it is a piece on the immortal beloved cd, it starts off with a long horn sound, and its like a soft beat then it picks up a bit well if ne one has the cd please email me at slapmaxwell1@home.com thanks
If the piece was a vocal one, it could be the opening movement of the "Missa Solemnis" but I doubt if it is that.
Nothing else on the CD seems to meet your description.
Try listening to the second movement of the Seventh on MIDI at this site and see if the tune matches what you heard.
Michael
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I agree with Michael on this one. You definitely must be referring to the 7th, m. 2. I have read that the movement is actually one very slow dance when you break its rhythms down.Comment
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That opening chord of the 7th 2nd movement is striking in its effect - it is known as a 6/4 chord and normally resolves - but Beethoven delays this resolution for 4 bars -when he repeats the chord at the end of the movement , it remains unresolved, creating a sort of bleakness.Originally posted by slapmaxwell1:
i am looking for a piece of beethovens work, it is a piece on the immortal beloved cd, it starts off with a long horn sound, and its like a soft beat then it picks up a bit
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The opening sounds almost 'marcia funebre' to me, the dance is slowed to a solemn march. I recall along time ago having a good debate about Schindler's story that this movement's designation as 'allegretto' was a misprint and that B's intentions were along the lines of 'andante'. It is not unlikely that S made his story up, nevertheless critics of the early performances described the movement as either 'adagio' or 'andante', so we know that in performance, at least, the pace was not typical allegretto, which in all B's other movments of this nature are more lively affairs. One could qualify an andante designation with for example 'quasi allegretto' perhaps baring in mind the nature of the movement as a whole, but I find it unusual that B would ask for allegretto for a slow(ish) march (which he would normally say andante).Originally posted by Serge:
I agree with Michael on this one. You definitely must be referring to the 7th, m. 2. I have read that the movement is actually one very slow dance when you break its rhythms down.
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In an 1823 conversation book, Schindler asks 'so, am I to mark the second movement of the A major Symphony Minim = 80?' - of course we don't know B's response, but I would have thought the Allegretto mark was correct.Originally posted by Rod:
I recall along time ago having a good debate about Schindler's story that this movement's designation as 'allegretto' was a misprint and that B's intentions were along the lines of 'andante'.
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Schindler also says that 'allegretto' led to some confused interpretations of the movement, not surprising given the nature of, say, the allegretto in the 8th. This I think was S's point. We know the actual metronome mark for certain, but I haven't got it. As I have said, the piece seems to have been performed then much as it is now - rather too heavy and broad for allegretto - but perhaps B actually wanted something with a lighter, swifter texture, which is possible with this movement but I haven't heard anyone play it like this, appart from a very spritely account by Bruggen years ago (which as it happens I quite liked). Perhaps the 'funeral march' is totally the wrong way to play this piece?Originally posted by Peter:
In an 1823 conversation book, Schindler asks 'so, am I to mark the second movement of the A major Symphony Minim = 80?' - of course we don't know B's response, but I would have thought the Allegretto mark was correct.
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