Bruckner 8

[Peter]

I thought somewhere earlier in this thread you referred in that way to the slow movement,and wanted to mention that reference, but I could not find it in the thread! Where is it, do you know?

Because of that comment, it was the slow movement I tried, which finally after several hearings opened itself up to me.

I'm not sure Chaszz, perhaps in another thread? Anyway I'm delighted those words helped!

[Chaszz]

I'm delighted Chaszz - I had problems with Bruckner as well and it was this 8th symphony that finally converted me as well - is there much more sublime than the slow movement which Bruckner himself regarded as his greatest achievement?

I thought somewhere earlier in this thread you referred in that way to the slow movement,and wanted to mention that reference, but I could not find it in the thread! Where is it, do you know?

Because of that comment, it was the slow movement I tried, which finally after several hearings opened itself up to me.

[Peter]

I've tried repeatedly to get into Bruckner and failed. I have now made a renewed effort with a Karajan recording of the 8th and succeeded at last. (Don't know which version as it is a privately "burned" 2-disk set with no other info on it). Thanks for stimulating my successful try with this thread, Peter!

I'm delighted Chaszz - I had problems with Bruckner as well and it was this 8th symphony that finally converted me as well - is there much more sublime than the slow movement which Bruckner himself regarded as his greatest achievement?

[Chaszz]

I've tried repeatedly to get into Bruckner and failed. I have now made a renewed effort with a Karajan recording of the 8th and succeeded at last. (Don't know which version as it is a privately "burned" 2-disk set with no other info on it). Thanks for stimulating my successful try with this thread, Peter!

[Peter]

Peter, I can tell you how to transfer the youtube video into an mp3 file and then to a CD if you wish.

Thanks Chaszz, that's very thoughtful but I really wanted it in dvd format - it's on my to get list but I'll see if there are better offers on it during the year.

[Chaszz]

Peter, I can tell you how to transfer the youtube video into an mp3 file and then to a CD if you wish.

[Quijote]

And very few people would have been any the wiser.

I'm not at all sure that is so, Sorrrano! I only noticed this passage (tampered with by Herbert von K) after having heard Boehm / Dresden (spelling?) and Barenboim / Berlin Phil versions. It is a key passage in the first movement, it's all going full-throttle, double ff and so on ...
The thing is, whilst I normally deplore such tampering, Karajan's intervention really makes for a more exciting moment, as the first violins' altered up-an-octave passage brings out the line to exciting effect.
I'm afraid I can't access the score to give you precise bar numbers and CD reference (I'm in the Black Forest cut off from all civilization, only schnapps to live on...), but I'll certainly do so when I get back. And after I have corrected your efforts at counterpoint.
Your teacher Albrechtsberger (or whatever his name was),
Don Q.

[Sorrano]

Well, in an EMI recording I have of Herbert von K playing Bruckner's 4th (Berlin Phil / 70s recording) he retranscribes several bars of the the Violin 1 parts up an octave which is in neither Haas or Nowak editions ! Very naughty, I must say.
[But effective, you forgot to add. Ed.]

And very few people would have been any the wiser.

[Quijote]

Consider yourself pressed.

Well, in an EMI recording I have of Herbert von K playing Bruckner's 4th (Berlin Phil / 70s recording) he retranscribes several bars of the the Violin 1 parts up an octave which is in neither Haas or Nowak editions ! Very naughty, I must say.
[But effective, you forgot to add. Ed.]

[Sorrano]

Thanks Preston - First time I've been on the forum since before Xmas and I meant to post that I've also found it on Amazon.co.uk - the price is putting me off a bit and I really only want that recording of the 8th rather than the other works (which I already have in other versions) - I'll have to think about it.

Check the "Used" prices. They are a bit less than the Amazon price, but nevertheless a bit much.

[Sorrano]

I will, if pressed.

Consider yourself pressed.

[Peter]

Peter, here you go:
http://www.amazon.com/Bruckner-Symph.../dp/B000YD7S26

Check the description and it will tell you where it was recorded.

Thanks Preston - First time I've been on the forum since before Xmas and I meant to post that I've also found it on Amazon.co.uk - the price is putting me off a bit and I really only want that recording of the 8th rather than the other works (which I already have in other versions) - I'll have to think about it.

[Preston]

Peter, here you go:
http://www.amazon.com/Bruckner-Symph.../dp/B000YD7S26

Check the description and it will tell you where it was recorded.

[Quijote]

I will, if pressed.

[Quijote]

I will not talk of Karajan 'trickery' in some EMI recording I have of the IVth.