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jess281
05-08-2001, 05:45 AM
I heard that Beethoven once cut off the legs of his piano while living in Vienna so that he could feel the vibrations on the floor. Is this fact or just a legend? Thanks for helping me solve the puzzle. =)

Rod
05-08-2001, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by jess281:
I heard that Beethoven once cut off the legs of his piano while living in Vienna so that he could feel the vibrations on the floor. Is this fact or just a legend? Thanks for helping me solve the puzzle. =)

I have also heard of B having pianos lying on the floor without legs. However I believe the legs of at least some pianos were detachable in those days - to assist transportation. Considering Beethoven lived virtually like a gypsy moving from one appartment to another throughout his time in Vienna, it would not surprise me if B's instruments were to be found 'legless'. I don't know about the vibration theory however - I doubt it as the functionality of the instrument would be handicapped (foot/knee pedals), and it would be downwright uncomfortable to play after just a few minutes! Certainly during his last years, when is deafness was severe, his Graf and Broadwood pianos were always standing, legs attached.

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Peter
05-08-2001, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Rod:
I don't know about the vibration theory however - I doubt it as the functionality of the instrument would be handicapped (foot/knee pedals), and it would be downwright uncomfortable to play after just a few minutes! Certainly during his last years, when is deafness was severe, his Graf and Broadwood pianos were always standing, legs attached.




I have heard that some kind of plate was placed on the piano also so as to strenghten the vibrations. The idea of the piano being on the floor seems bizarre to me - no way could anyone play a piano properly in such a position!

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'Man know thyself'

Immortal Beloved
06-14-2001, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by jess281:
I heard that Beethoven once cut off the legs of his piano while living in Vienna so that he could feel the vibrations on the floor. Is this fact or just a legend? Thanks for helping me solve the puzzle. =)


I've heard that before in 12th grade about beethoven's piano on the floor with no legs. All I have to say is I don't think he did that.

Claudie MICAULT
06-14-2001, 07:58 PM
Hi Jess, try one to play piano lying down on the floor : even if you can hear... it would be a funny sound I guess !!! We had had also our three pianos lying down on the floor during our last move....

Immortal Beloved
06-15-2001, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by Claudie MICAULT:
Hi Jess, try one to play piano lying down on the floor : even if you can hear... it would be a funny sound I guess !!! We had had also our three pianos lying down on the floor during our last move....

lying on the floor while playing the piano with legs could be tough....or maybe not. http://www.gyrix.com/~cgraye/ubb/smile.gif

PDG
06-15-2001, 01:15 AM
I prefer playing the piano with fingers rather than legs.

Immortal Beloved
06-15-2001, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by PDG:
I prefer playing the piano with fingers rather than legs.


Me too! http://www.gyrix.com/~cgraye/ubb/smile.gif

Claudie MICAULT
06-15-2001, 10:38 PM
When I was young I had a 1/2 queue, and as the room was very little, I was sleeping on the floor under my piano ! By chance the legs were good vlunched !!! But sometimes when I waked up at night (to go "pipi") I forgot the piano and made music with my head by hurting the instrument !!!


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Claudie

Joy
06-16-2001, 04:54 AM
I've also read that B used to hold a pencil in his mouth between his teeth for better hearing (or something like that). How is this possible? Don't ask me where I've read this I don't know, I've read too many books
to know where. Maybe someone has heard of this and can put me straight on this subject.
http://www.gyrix.com/~cgraye/ubb/cool.gif
Joy

PDG
06-16-2001, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by Claudie MICAULT:
When I was young I had a 1/2 queue, and as the room was very little, I was sleeping on the floor under my piano ! By chance the legs were good vlunched !!! But sometimes when I waked up at night (to go "pipi") I forgot the piano and made music with my head by hurting the instrument !!!


No wonder you had nowhere to sleep with 3 pianos in the house! http://www.gyrix.com/~cgraye/ubb/smile.gif

PDG
06-16-2001, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by Joy:
I've also read that B used to hold a pencil in his mouth between his teeth for better hearing (or something like that). How is this possible? Don't ask me where I've read this I don't know, I've read too many books
to know where. Maybe someone has heard of this and can put me straight on this subject.
http://www.gyrix.com/~cgraye/ubb/cool.gif
Joy

I reckon this is one of those "probably" rather than "possibly" true stories, Joy. One can imagine the poor man, so desperate for any musical sensation, gripping a pencil between his teeth, & pushing the other end down onto the piano just to feel the vibrations coming from it. Can't have done his teeth much good, come to think of it..........

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PDG (Peter)

Claudie MICAULT
06-18-2001, 01:08 AM
Dear Peter,
At the time I slept under the piano, the flat was very very little (15 m2)... Now with 3 pianos I have plenty of place to sleep normally in a bed because I worked well my music, so no problems with the 3 pianos at home (150 m2)... only that we are always playing on the best one !!! And when one of us play... the dog is yet sleeping under the piano!!!!

PDG
06-18-2001, 06:45 AM
Hello Claudie. Your dog must be as deaf as a certain composer if he's able to sleep under a piano being played!

Joy
06-19-2001, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by PDG:
I reckon this is one of those "probably" rather than "possibly" true stories, Joy. One can imagine the poor man, so desperate for any musical sensation, gripping a pencil between his teeth, & pushing the other end down onto the piano just to feel the vibrations coming from it. Can't have done his teeth much good, come to think of it..........


Thanks, PDG, for clearing that one up for me.
I knew I heard it somewhere. http://www.gyrix.com/~cgraye/ubb/smile.gif
Joy